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Monthly Archives: March 2013
Reviewing Anastasia Date -Two models for agency financial success:
Various different forum threads have reported the recruitment of ‘Translators’ and ‘Interpreters’ into the agencies that feed Anastasia Date.
There are both agency descriptions (of how to recruit TERPS) in the home site and there are advertisements that were previously reported here and on various online forums.
This recruitment for paid ‘translators’ is indicative of a model for having women appear on camera or on chat to deceive the men users into thinking that they are chatting with someone who wants to find a husband. In a recent post, we see that many of the men that utilize Anastasia Date are not looking for women, but simply bored men who want to talk sex.
Such women are initially hired as both interpreters – to go out on dates with women who are meeting men – and as translators – to translate and assist in responding to letters. Once engaged in the agency, the woman also will be recruited to go on camera and perform chat with many different men – often simultaneously.
But there is a different approach that I have observed. It works with no less efficiency in bringing money into the company, although it does not quite offer the same direct compensation as described above where a woman is hired directly by the agency in the ‘translator’ role.
The Other Model:
In major Ukraine cities there are billboards and advertisements that encourage women to sign up with agencies. One woman reported that she was requested by a friend who had recently become one of the above TERP employees.
She was asked to put her profile up. She had no intention of dating anyone, but was simply trying to help out a friend. Other women I have talked to were intrigued by the idea of a ‘Free’ photo shoot.
A woman is attracted to the glossy pictures and ability to talk to men online. They sign up. They sign an agreement and provide their passport. A photo shoot is scheduled. During the photo shoot, if the woman is attractive, they will also ‘entice’ the woman to put up videos to additionally encourage men to communicate with them. All of these freebies have a cost. I have talked to women from three different agencies.
The first, in Kyiv, said that as soon as it became apparent that she would be a money maker for the company, the owner of the agency began a full-court press on her both to use her pictures at his discretion, and also to shoot additional videos to entice men to pay additional money.
Immediately she was offered a contract to produce a certain amount of income for the company and advised that she would have top billing as a head-liner on the website masthead. In her words – she refused. Within two weeks she was contacted and told that she had violated the terms of her agreement and that she would be forced to pay for the pictures and that her web presence was to be deleted. The alternative was that she could conform to company policy and get a stipend for the money that company made from her.
When I found her last summer and she shared that she had just had her profile reinstated and that she was now following the agency rules. As an aside, she is no longer with Anastasia Date, has migrated to UkraineDate, but Anastasia Date still maintains her profile. I asked her to come online here to share her story, but she is reluctant to do so even though she no longer lives in Kyiv.
Last summer, I met a woman in Kharkiv. She had been online for over a year and a half. Her profile was one of the most recognizable profiles on the network. She was a very pretty woman and was listed as a school teacher.
I could never understand how she was available to talk to me at 8:00 AM her time if she was teaching school. We met in Kharkiv, but by then I had already met the woman who eventually became my committed girlfriend.
This woman and I became close friends. We communicate to this day and I found her to be a valuable ally in knowing which side is up. Her story was a little different than the lady from Kyiv.
She, was, first of all, very young. She was attracted to the mystique of talking to men across the sea. After she had been online less than a month, the agency owner came to her with 500 Grivna and gave it to her as a ‘thank you’ for all the money he was making off of her.
She was told that if they (the agency) could operate her profile, without discretion, and that if she would show up to meet men that came into town, that she would continue to get money like this.
Because she was not participating – and getting paid anyway – she went along with it. In October she met a man. She had a summary page that was created by the agency that told of her ‘conversations’ with him.
After she met him, she began to receive threats from him because he was able to ascertain that it had never been her communicating with him. To protect herself she removed the profile from the system. And she is now in a relationship with a local man and they are getting married.
The third and most recent variation on this theme is quite simple. I was advised of it by my former girlfriend. It was one of her friends that went online and was quickly dismayed with the type of man she was experiencing. She asked to have her profile removed. It was taken down and she was satisfied.
Two weeks after having been removed, the profile was once again displayed and became one of the masthead profiles, displayed again and again. Obviously, the person operating this profile was counting on the fact that the woman would not, herself, be looking to see if the profile resurfaced. Her friends notified her.
She has had trouble getting it removed and had to report the agency to Anastasia Date to finally have it no longer online.
The simple truth is this: Either a woman is a willing participant and compensated for her services or, if her profile produces funds for the agency, she is either cheated or coerced into participation. Those profiles that do not produce much income are left alone.
I could go on and on and on. But the reality is that there are so many variations on the theme of how to get money from a profile which sometimes, maybe the women don’t know – and aren’t making money directly. But indirectly, the agency is supporting them and if necessary manipulating them to insure that the money still rolls in.
The people who run the agencies that I have rubbed elbows with are no more than thugs. The likelihood of an honest pay-per-letter exchange via Anastasia Date is remote. If the lady is not being paid, herself, chances are she is no longer controlling her own profile and that it is being operated by an agency employee.
One really has to consider how much time an unpaid woman would dedicate to finding a spouse, online. I can only estimate, but my guess would be three to five months, and maybe an hour a day.
Every profile that is older than this time frame is suspect. And every woman, online more than an hour a day (which is the overwhelming majority of them) is also suspect. Continue reading
GoGabber Discussion Forum Newsletter – Easter 2013.
This is our first newsletter in quite some time, and first I want to take a moment to welcome again our many new members to the conversation forums that we have gained recently. It’s good to have so many new members. Please do not be shy about jumping into any conversations on the forum that pique your interest.
So What’s Happening?
If you haven’t visited GoGabber in a while, you have missed a few things!
The forums came under new ownership and management in late 2012. A shock to an online community such as an ownership change always ensures that feelings will run high and there will be many questions. This was no exception, and people who care about the community were understandably concerned that there would be some kind of drastic change, and that their online hangout place may change for the worse. All that really changed was some investment of money, time and care into the community, and some much-needed repairs around the place.
The site has enjoyed a few older members that had long left GG drifting back in recent months, which is always nice. We continue to attract a growing trickle of new members too as GG is now advertised on a few other high traffic websites.
As a result of the recent changes, most of the things that were broken and didn’t work properly now do. The old favourites like the arcade games and radio channels are still here. There are still a few small fixes to do (its a work in progress), but the big stuff is done.
Current Popular Topics:
Boris Berezovsky: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10282
Breathing Earth: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10022
Hot Topic – Americans and Guns: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=9980
If you have to get MRI at a zoo, it’s time to lose weight: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10276
British Politics: UKIP and Nigel Farage. Credible or not?: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10229
Пасха в Англии: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10293
Cyprus Planning to Steal 6%-10% of All Bank Deposits!: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10254
Gauleiter Bloomberg bans sale of 2 liter sodas in NYC: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10177
Brave New Nanny State: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10215
Under New Management: GoGabber is NOT Closing. GoGabber не закрывается: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=9940
The Winds of Change: The Future of GoGabber: http://www.gogabber.com/showthread.php?t=10224
What else is going on?
For our Russian speakers, in the private Groups section of the site, the ever popular МОЯ АМЕРИКА! topic stands at an amazing 5358 replies and has been running since 2010!
Many of the historical Russian language topics have been moved to a new room called Чат на русском языке so Russian-speaking members of the site can access many of the Russian language topics all in one place. Russian language is by no means restricted to that room, but we intend that those who are more familiar with Russian than English will find it easier to zoom through historical topics if they are in one place.
GoGabber has had a somewhat chequered history, it has also had its fair share of crises over the years. What we are hoping to do from this point on is encourage the community to shape what GG will become as we move forward and grow again. A big part of that is to invite all lost and older members to revisit GG, take a look around and hopefully stick around and join in the chat once more.
That’s about it for now. We hope all our members have a great Easter, and we look forward to seeing you back at GoGabber in the near future.
The GoGabber.com Team.
This email was sent to the email address which was used to register an account at the GoGabber Forums. If you have lost your GG log in details, you can reset your password by visiting this link: http://gogabber.com/login.php?do=lostpw Continue reading
The BBC has announced that for the 50th anniversary episode of Doctor Who to be screened in November, will feature David Tennant!
Fans of the Doctor may also be pleased to know that Rose Tyler – aka Billie Piper – will also feature. Despite denying it on the Graham Norton show two months ago.
Has the BBC finally woken up and sniffed the skinny latte?
Perhaps the slothful revenue from Dr Who merchandising since they introduced Matt Smith as the Doctor has made them feel the need to bring David Tennant back.
Or perhaps it was the collapse of the viewing figures?
As the parent of an eight year old Doctor Who fanatic, who was bugged to buy almost any piece of Dr Who related paraphernalia that hit the market, I can also testify to the fact that since Matt Smith took the role, interest has waned and Power Rangers have once again reigned supreme in our house.
Even our four year old – who doesn’t entirely follow the story-lines – cant seem to wrap her head around Matt Smith in the role.
However, not being able to follow story-lines featuring Matt Smith isn’t something that only relates to four year olds. Hell, even I cant follow some of the story-lines Matt Smith has been given Its as if the whole show has become disjointed.
Only Karen Gillan’s endless long legs and equally long tresses have held my interest in the show.
While some of the Smith era story-lines have been a bit naff, its fair to say he has has his good moments in the role. David Tennant was always going to be a tough act to follow. Probably only a better known actor could have pulled it off in honesty.
Of the new show, Tennant’s successor, Matt Smith – also in the special with his new assistant played by Jenna-Louise Coleman (yummy!) – says fans “will not be disappointed” by the 3D show, due to air on 23 November.
The BBC say future episodes of the show, which is filmed in Cardiff, see the return of the Cybermen and old enemy the Ice Warriors, who last appeared during the Jon Pertwee era in 1974.
Is it time to retire Matt Smith and bring back David Tennant? The kids in our house think so. So do all their friends apparently.
Come on Mr Moffat and the BBC, Matt Smith had a crack at it, and Dr Who will rise like a phoenix from the ashes if you bring David Tennant back. But it will take more than one episode.
Bring him back for good and then you won’t have to rely on the presence of the female stars to hold interest in the show.
At least then, he wont have to keep trying to sell me Beardy Branson’s products every time I turn on the TV. Continue reading
For our friends in places other than the UK, Nigel Farage is the leader of a political party called UKIP: The UK Independence Party.
Their site is here: http://www.ukip.org/
They are a right of centre political party occupying the space the Conservatives once sat in – in the Thatcher years – before David Cameron (or Mr Slippery as some call him) became more interested in gay marriage and centrist Blairist politics than rebuilding Britain’s economy.
Their general aim seems to be to pull Britain out of the EU and thus removing the UK from the obligation we have of paying Billions of pounds to build roads in Bulgaria and such places; to regain control of our own borders, export terrorists back to Jordan or wherever, and for our courts to make their own decisions rather than being bound by ‘Human Rights’ decisions made in Brussels by unelected faceless people.
To me, Nigel Farage seems an unlikely party leader. And an even more unlikely Prime Minister. But his policies echo more and more common sense. He is from the Jeremy Clarkson school of common sense. And I subscribe to common sense.
They are already winning small seats in our neighbourhood:
Friday, 8th March 2013
UKIP National Executive member Louise Bours made a welcome breakthrough on Thursday with a comfortable win in a local Cheshire by-election, the party’s first council victory in the North West.
Louise topped the Tories in the Congleton Town Council poll with 769 votes, leaving the Conservatives on 587, one Independent candidate on 263 and a second Independent on 125.
Following the victory Cllr Bours said: “I am both proud and humbled by the people of Congleton West placing their trust in me.
“Throughout our country on May 2 voters will be given the choice to at last have their voice heard. UKIP councillor’s will deliver that voice and will bring to councils across our country, common sense and trustworthiness so badly lacking’.
Do you think UKIP is a credible party?
Should the UK leave the EU?
Is Nigel Farage a credible party leader?
Would you vote for UKIP? Continue reading